Well, what I'd say is that I gave a speech about financial regulatory reform in 2007. Before our current crisis. In 2008, before we fully knew what this crisis was gonna be. We released financial-- reform-- as a package over a year ago. And so, we're not Johnny Come Lately's to this thing. We've been pushing this hard throughout. And the SEC is an entirely independent-- agency that-- we have no day to day control over. And they never discussed with us anything-- with respect to the charge that will be brought. So, this notion that somehow-- there would be any attempt to interfere in an independent agency is completely false.
JOHN HARWOOD: So, you say categorically no winks, no heads up in advance--
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Categorically.
JOHN HARWOOD:--no signal from anyone--
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Categorically. We-- we-- we found out about it on--CNBC.
Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) isn't buying it.
